Anti-Shariah Conference Relocated Due to Threats of Violence

Not If I Can Help It!

There’s something deeply disturbing about the fact that Christians who are concerned about the spread of Shariah into the United States cannot speak openly without threats of violence.  WND is reporting that Cornerstone Church of Madison, TN, is was forced to find another venue for its Preserving Freedom Conference.  It had been scheduled to take place at the Hutton Hotel in Nashville, but the Hotel management decided to cancel their contract due to threats and intimidation. Why Eric Holder isn’t investigating this, rather than sending guns into the hands of Mexican drug cartels?  If Americans can’t discuss these issues without threats of violence, all the clap-trap about how “we’re not at war with Islam” is just empty rhetoric.  If Americans can be threatened and intimidated in this way, the Islamists are already winning.

It astonishing to me that in the first instance, a hotel would cower like this.  What isn’t clear is whether the Hutton Hotel’s management forwarded threatening and intimidating emails and letters to authorities, or otherwise filed a report with police.  The speakers scheduled for the event included Pamela Geller, Jay Sekulow, and Geert Wilders, among many others.  Stifling the free speech of Christian Americans is apparently fine, but you’d better not say the first critical word about Islam, Shariah, or the widespread notion in the Muslim world that America must be destroyed.

Ladies and gentlemen, we are under attack on all fronts.  While the Islamists attempt to undermine American culture and law, the left is doing the same.  The Islamists do it from within their religious institutions, while the leftists do it under the auspices of government and popular media.  Nobody will be immune to the ultimate result of this course we’re on, and it’s senseless to pretend that we can take some sort of “wait and see” approach.

As Geert Wilders noted:

“Do not allow Islam to gain a foothold here,” Wilders said. “Islam is dangerous. Islam wants to establish a state on earth, ruled by Islamic Shariah law. Islam aims for the submission, whether by persuasion, intimidation or violence, of all non-Muslims, including Christians.”

If we cave in to threats and intimidation, they have already established a foothold.  This will not stop until we confront it openly.  Many like to minimize the threat posed by the spread of Islamic culture in America, with Shariah law being imported and used to determine cases in American courts.  We’ve already seen how ths has worked in Europe, particularly France, Germany, and the United Kingdom, but if this is permitted to take root here, we will face a spreading misery worse even than our current political leadership inflicts upon us at present.

Americans of any description or any faith should be free to speak their minds without fear of violence.  That our federal government now essentially turns a blind eye to this growing threat should tell you something about the mindset of our current administration.  Reversing this course is the purpose for which we must nominate and elect a real conservative, and not some noodle-spine technocrat.  At this time in American history, there really is no room for that sort of “moderation.”  The only compromise between life and death is a slow death.  We mustn’t permit this to be our country’s fate.

Update: Newt Gingrich Calls for Ban on Shariah in US

 

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  • SeanStLouis

    "…(there is a) widespread notion in the Muslim world that America must be destroyed."

    Widespread? Hard data does not support that view. To speak of Sharia Law and Islam as one-in-the-same is intellectually dishonest and, quite frankly, Machiavellian. The scapegoating and stereotyping is an effective lever to convince the uneducated masses that our way of life is threatened by "The Enemy"….by Islam.

    Very similar to Nazi propaganda in the 1930's, in fact.

    Do not succumb to the globalists' divide and conquer strategy, my friends. Truly, all we have to fear is fear itself. It is only fear which gives them power.

    “Do not allow Islam to gain a foothold here,” Wilders said. “Islam is dangerous. Islam wants to establish a state on earth, ruled by Islamic Shariah law. Islam aims for the submission, whether by persuasion, intimidation or violence, of all non-Muslims, including Christians.”

    – Geert Wilders

    "If the Jew wants to fight, it is fine with us. We have wanted that fight for a long time. There is no room in the world for the Jews any more. The Jew or us, one of us will have to go. We know that the Jew will lose, that he and his devilish, life-denying and destructive doctrines will be destroyed, Look around and see how the emigrants are increasing; even London has noticed."

    – Dr. Robert Ley (Reich Organization Leader), May, 1939

    • http://www.markamerica.com MarkAmerica

      Sean, unless I'm mistaken, you've just likened me to a Nazi. You get one more chance.

      It is widespread. There are whole organizations operating within our own borders devoted to that message and purpose. Feel free to disagree, but I'm not going to put up with being called a Nazi…or a globalist. The two quotes that you placed side-by-side are nothing alike. One is a warning, and one is a threat. Your confusion seems tied to your political agenda.

      Being the Ron Paul supporter that you are, I am not terribly surprised.

      • SeanStLouis

        I'm sorry. I absolutely did not mean to imply that you are a Nazi, Mark. I'm simply trying to point out that the Islamophobic propaganda seems to have worked on you.

        Yes, I agree, there are groups and organizations that espouse Sharia Law who would like to "incorporate" the United States. But I disagree with you that it is "widespread". In fact, the overwhelming majority of Muslims worldwide do not practice and do not condone Sharia Law.

        The similarity between propaganda in 1930's Germany and today is, in fact, very similar. The design is to unite people against a common enemy under false pretenses. I am only trying open your mind to this historical parallel and it's implications and I'm sorry if I offended you.

        There are ideological and moral implications when you succumb to the idea that Islam is Sharia Law. That is why I chose to use Dr. Ley's quote in comparison to Geert's statement. This kind of hateful rhetoric foments nationalist political ideology and moral bankruptcy…all in the name of "country".

        Geert's statement, while he has a right to his opinion, is a downright lie. Islam is not Sharia Law. These are dangerous lies and an effective tool for those who would use them.

        • http://www.markamerica.com MarkAmerica

          Nothing "worked" on me. I am not Islamophobic, and I believe that term is absurd in most contexts. I know what I have seen with my own eyes in my own travels on this little rock. To say "shariah law" is really a redundancy. Shariah is "they way," or "the law." Shariah, in its ultimate expression, is the unity of church and state, a.k.a., a theocracy.

          My eyes are wide open, but I fear you're wearing blinders. You say: "not widespread." This map puts the lie to that, doesn't it(oh, and it needs to be updated since the "Arab Spring"):
          <img src="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Countries_with_Sharia_rule.png&quot; alt="Wikipedia – Map of Countries Ruled by Shariah" />

          That's not "Islamophobia," pal. It's most of the Islamic world that lives under Shariah to some degree or other.

          Geert's statement was factual, not hateful. If you don't like the truth of it, or that I'll be dealing in the truth of it here on this site, you know how to find the exits. What Geert said is based on the truth of the situation on the ground. Visit Europe and examine how parallel systems of law have been permitted to flourish. Imagine the youngster born in Britain who decides at some point to part way with it, and turning to the assistance of the government, only to be remanded back to the local shariah courts.

          You can make of it what you will, by I consider the growth and expansion of Shariah into the west as a matter of grave cultural, legal, and societal danger. I have no fear of Islam. My only concern is with fools who have never set foot in a country ruled by Shariah sitting at their keyboards clacking away a defense of it. Don't come to my site, tell me that I'm a Nazi, or a dupe for Nazis, and expect a happy play-day in the comments section. Take your smarmy support of Ron Paul's idiocy and begone. I don't need the media to tell me how dangerous that little nut's foreign policy really is.

  • http://twitter.com/BDWatcher bdwatcher (@BDWatche

    The 1st Amendment:
    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

    The Constitution says nothing of the States Government, city government or even personal expression of religious beliefs. Only Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, OR, Prohibiting the free excercise there of. It is not your personal rights to prohibit someone from their free exercise. The 1st amendment has been twisted to the exclusion of personal rights. I smile now too. Cities, states, state governments are incorporated. This means that they are an entity with personal and constitutional rights as any individual. Wikipedia the definition of a corporation.

    The text books already being used in school is teaching the concept of sharia law, socialism, collective ideology along with downplaying Christian values and creates the idea that all the problems in the middle east is the product of Isreal aggressive nature. Our children are being taught a different history than what we know to be true and right.

    Sean, the text books are revised by book publishers. Do a little research and you will find that one of the major text book publishers have a division that prints middle east text books, and, 2 others gets funding from middle east organizations and now is influencing our children. Suits have been filed, but dismissed as unsubstantiated. Local, county and governmental agencies say it is not their authority and pass the buck up. The comission that approves our national text books changed their procedure eliminating non governmental personal to review and search for bias in the books taking out safeguards. The books sold to all the states are approved by the federal education department with no oversight. So little is being said about this. It is total indoctrination. Our children believe all these things in print as gospel.. of course, it is taught in school. no way it could be wrong?

    Daily, Christian values and artifacts, words and expressions are being criticized, defamed and the process is in line to eliminate all christian values from any public place, colleges, universities to even having a cross on private property being taken down. It seems that the laws for human rights have progressed to personal rights. Everyone has the right to be offended, but not to change the behavior and expression thereof because you don't like it. Dare not criticize Islam, Muslims or the Koran. Seems rather one sided to me. If not for the Christian values that created this United States, the Constitution, you just might be living in a dictatorship, or, heaven forbid, an Islam state? You would not have these indificual rights as you are losing now. Look around, see which country you would rather live in other than the US. Those countries, all of them, the worst of them are coming here with the intention to change our society, out laws and out government. Even now a judicial ruling was overturned as the judgement was taking sharia law as a basis for judicial ruling.. It is here! Our form of government, our judicial system, our nation of laws must be preserved, not twisted to the agenda of those against us.

    What kind of a life will you live here without Christian Values? This is a mouthful and deserves much soul searching.

    • SeanStLouis

      Your points are well-taken, BD.

      In my response to Mark's article I wasn't trying to so much marginalize the effect of Sharia Law on our religious beliefs or public policy, it is a serious thing that needs to be talked about. I only meant to make a clear distinction between Muslims who practice Sharia and those who do not. Islam is not Sharia Law and vice versa. It's very important to make that distinction because the media propaganda tends to blur the issue.

      I agree with your views on indoctrination. When you talk about the shortcomings, and manipulations, of our education system what you're really talking about is the totalitarianism of our federal government. We have allowed our government to take control of our public schools. This "commission that approves our national textbooks" should not exist. Teachers should be free to choose and create their own curriculum, with proper consent of parents, and without regard to publishers or government bureaucrats.

      Get the government out of the business of educating our children and any outside influence, of which you speak, will be eradicated.

      When we talk about equating American Values with Christian Values it all means nothing unless we practice what we preach. How can we equate Christian Values with American Values when we consider the current foreign policy of this country? I think it's time to stop pretending to be something that we're not. We should have an abhorrence towards war and domination, not a tendency for it. As someone, I think Ghandi, said, "I like your Christ, but I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ".

      Regarding some of your other comments…

      You talk about the Constitution, our founders and Christian Values. We have gotten so far away from true American ideals that it is painfully obvious. What happened to taking responsibility for one's actions, morality in government and the rule of law? As the father of two young boys I'm well aware of the indoctrination of which you speak. We are right to be worried about future generations. As parents, we must take steps to minimize this, as I have with my own children by expanding the horizons of their education. I'm not worried about my kids having strange ideas relating to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. I'm confident that they will grow up believing in the America that our founders believed in.

      • http://www.markamerica.com MarkAmerica

        Ghandi? Look here, when you come to my site, please drop the pretense. Ghandi was murdered by a Hindu nationalist. If Ghandi was so wise as some suggest, he'd have been armed. The notion of nonviolence he adopted is absurd, and suicidal:

        "There are many causes that I am prepared to die for but no causes that I am prepared to kill for."

        If you are unwilling to kill even for your own defense, you are volunteering to be poached. Go ahead, Sean, put up a sign on your front lawn(or whatever) that says "this home is occupied by those who do not believe in self-defense." Depending on your neighborhood, you might last one month.

        While you're teaching your kids what our founders believed, be sure to visit the subject of what they believed and practiced with respect to the national defense, rather than what you seem to think they believed.

        The idea that public school teachers should be free to choose the curricula is absurd. I agree with you on the textbooks business, but apart from that, teachers work for us. Frankly, I'd be happy to see the coercive monopoly of public schools abolished. You want to fix it? Do it that way.

      • SeanStLouis

        I was using a quote to make a point.

        Please, Mark, try to digest my comments a little less politically and a little more philosophically. I'm not here to try to convince anyone to support my candidate. I'm here to share ideas. I think it's safe to say that we pretty much agree on everything except foreign policy.

        What Gandhi did or how he died is irrelevant. What he said, in this instance, was relevant to my point regarding practicing what you preach.

        Of course I believe that self-defense is justified. In turn, I believe that we need to maintain a strong national defense.

        I said teachers should be able to choose and create their own curriculum with consent of parents.

        Yes, Mark, I think you understand my non-interventionist views on foreign policy. If you're referring to the Barbary Pirates your point is well-taken.

        • http://www.markamerica.com MarkAmerica

          Sean, I understand that you're here to talk philosophy, but in order to consider Gandhi, you must examine how his ideas panned-out. His death at the hands of a nationalist punctuate the reason Gandhi's philosophy failed, and why he isn't relevant to this particular conversation.

          Consent of parents is not the issue so much as the choice of parents. The latter settles the former.

          I was referring to the Barbary pirates, but also the torching of the capital in the War of 1812, which had only been possible due to an insufficient defense. Our founders had known this sort of thing would happen, which is a part of why they dumped the A of C in favor of our current constitution. It should be noted that the framers of our constitution made clear the necessity of a standing navy, in part for this purpose: To protect private American shipping around the globe. Their notion had been to extend the umbrella of protection not merely to citizens, but the property of citizens here, but also on the high seas. Understanding that, placing our warships and Air Forces in forward areas where we believe threats may well arise to American interests was well within the notions of the founders' philosophy. Brought into our modern context, they would regard Ron Paul's foreign policy as high folly.