GOP Scandal: Florida Violated Another Rule?

Another Victory Lost?

Most of you will remember that Florida, by moving its primary up to January, waived half of its delegates to the national convention.  As it now turns out, they may have violated another rule, and it stands to benefit Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum, and Ron Paul, all to the detriment of Mitt Romney.  It seems that there is another rule that forbids “winner-take-all” primaries and caucuses prior to 1 April.  This is being covered by a variety of outlets, but Burns and Haberman at Politico have given in-depth coverage.

They have outlined the problem, and actually quoted the GOP rules:

“Any presidential primary, caucus, convention, or other meeting held for the purpose of selecting delegates to the national convention which occurs prior to the first day of April in the year in which the national convention is held, shall provide for the allocation of delegates on a proportional basis. (Rule No. 15(b)(2))” (emphasis mine)

Uh-oh Mitt. You see, if we are to accept that the Virginia GOP mustn’t change its rules to permit others who just missed qualification for the ballot access in that state, we must also conclude since the GOP is a party that follows its own rules, it must follow this one.  I have read accounts that the Gingrich camp is already pursuing this, as they should because as the Romney camp  hurries to remind us about Virginia, “rules are rules.”

Myself, I think this is perfect justice.  The Florida GOP hurried up its primary to help Mitt Romney sew up the nomination early, and waived half of its ninety-nine delegates, but now it seems that if this turns out the way the rule is written, the Florida party will have no choice but to apportion the delegates by percentage of vote, and if so, Romney will get twenty-four delegates rather than fifty. Gingrich would come away with fifteen or sixteen.  Instead of handing Romney the ninety-nine delegates they might have handed him later, they may now hand him one-fourth of that number, and I think this is a perfect answer to the entire fiasco of the accelerated schedule.

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  • http://twitter.com/BDWatcher bdwatcher (@BDWatche

    The best laid plans of mice and men oft go astray. Fiasco is not necessarily the right word, but it will do.

  • patriotsoul

    What IS it about that number 99?

  • eyetooth tom

    About Florida today.
    The statics on your "Florida Poll-Election Eve" post on 30 Jan, 2012 was interesting to note to this Fl voter.
    For Newt: +82%
    Are you registered Fl voter?: NO… + 87 %
    Result far different from pro Newt .
    Florida has been metastasized, so to speak, and not by those who find this site appealing. Think…malignant.

  • GirlfriendGeek

    Does there seem to be some hysteria brewing out there, or is it just me?

  • eyetooth tom

    About Florida yesterday.
    Lee Petty drove a Dynamic 88 Olds to victory at Daytona 1959. I drove a 1954 Rocket 88 Olds (four door sedan) to victory in high school. Listened to race on radio…sand beach race and highway a1a, Daytona. Sorry but those were the days….hope you young folks can regain it.
    You'll have to be the ones.

    • patriotsoul

      Hmm. No accountability from your generation?
      It seems to me, the older ones are partially and absolutely responsible for how and what they taught the younger ones.

      • eyetooth tom

        No word war wanted. But "partially and absolutely" seems kinda like partially and completely responsible. Seems a little inadequate for being definitive as to cause. Don't know answers…did the voting of what was available at the time.
        But regardless of past failures and accountability, if you want to change things…it's up to you. Or it's ______'s fault on and on. Fill in the blank. But if it continues…blank becomes your's fault.

      • John Fedor

        It should be required that ANYONE running for office in this country must have studied the "Constitution of The United States", and all debate questions be from said document. I have to agree with you on placing responsibility. We allowed our school system to pollute our kids minds, along with Dr. Spock . I personally have given up any hope we will ever see AMERICA as I saw it,and it makes me cry.

      • eyetooth tom

        Patriot and John…Placing responsibility is fine. Place it where something can be done about whatever the problem. I ran 220 of 880 back in the day. From time to time I may have been ahead or behind, but the baton is passed…it's your 220 now. I'll never forget coach saying after my 220…"I should have let Leroy run ." Hurt a bit, but I knew i did my best at the moment.
        So if you want accountabiitly…it starts with you.
        I can't run my 220 over. And my coach (Korea war vet, lost leg) is still with us.

      • John Fedor

        Eyetooth,I think before too long we will have an opportunity to step up and try to take our country back. And I don,t mean by way of the ballot box! I have never seen such anger against our politicians in my life,and I'm 75. When it starts this time, I won't be on the governments side. Its almost time for "the tree of liberty to be watered" and Lord willing I'll have an opportunity to help hold the hose.

  • IndependentMom

    Personally I am tired of getting leftovers in the primaries. I live in one of the states that votes last and by then it has been decided by a handful of states which people most of us will get to vote for in the election.

    I would like to see this changed so ALL the candidates get a shot and WE get a say in who we really want, not just other states choices.

    What I would like to see is for anyone who is eligible and wants to run put into say 12 debates, on national TV with questions asked by the American people covering all topics, done free so money is not the issue as to someone's electability. Then ALL media outlets do their job of vetting the candidates with only verifiable facts. No opinions, no lies, no smear campaigns.

    Maybe then we would get some good candidates that want to run who aren't beholding to anyone who financed their campaign and get people who can go into the job doing what the people want not those who had the money to get them elected.

    • eyetooth tom

      Why do I invoke the Constitution? I can only quote it. As to your state not having anything to do with outcome.
      "The Congress may determine the time of choosing of electors, and the day they give their votes: which day shall be the same throughout the United States."
      So then one carrier from each state rode a horse to D.C. with the votes, Florida and South Carolina, and Iowa, and New Hampshire , no one knowing the others liking. Then counted there.
      Now CNN and other news lets you know well before hand to help you make up your mind. Mitt and Trump now is the way to go. Forget it. Wish it wasn't so. So much for vetting. Mount up. Ride Sally Ride.

  • http://twitter.com/Yoosh1 Yoosh (@Yoosh1)

    Im starting to think that 80% of so called republicans are completely clueless about policies and what the nominees stand for. They just vote for romney because they think he looks more like a president. Thats all they know about him. And all they know about Newt is that he has ex wives. This is going to be a tough road!

  • WallyPalo

    Good to hear this information, Mark. I had read about the halving of delegates fro the move-up, but thought all primaries this season were asked to apportion delegates by proportion of vote. Didn't know it was just for the early states. I wish all states would do it this way. Then alliances can be formed at he convention to show actual support for one nominee versus another. If Gingrich could pull in Santorum and Paul voters in a negotiated alliance, he could vault past Romney at the convention. Not so, though, if it is a winner-take-all scenario.

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