Is It Inevitable?

 

or This?

Rightscoop.com picked up on a fascinating call Mark Levin took on his show on Friday evening, and what made the call interesting on its surface was the subject matter, and the identity of the caller, Nicholas from Paris, France, and why he thought the world was in trouble given his country’s swing to the hard left in the recent election.  The caller was concerned for the US, and the notion that we are turning into France.  While that’s very important, and certainly bears examination, there’s something else in this call that I found revealing.  I want you to pay attention to what Mark Levin says in response, and what it portends for our future, here in the US. It’s not that it wasn’t clear, but that the context of the call actually serves to hide the worst, most frightening aspect of what was said in the exchange, and if you’re like me, you heard it too:

Levin responds by re-stating the caller’s root question:

“Your question though is “how do you get out of this?”

He then warns the caller that the answer isn’t pleasant:

“I’m going to tell you and you’re not going to like it.”

“The system will have to collapse before it can be rebuilt.”

Think about the context of this remark.  I don’t believe Levin intended it to be taken this way, but everything he tells the caller about France applies to our domestic political situation, including the way we “get out of this.”

I offer this to you because in my few spare moments lately, I’ve been giving some thought to the apparent futility of many of our efforts.  We hear from this caller that in his country, there is only the socialist answer for everything, and I wonder how familiar that this has become to us.  Whether it’s the leftist front and the Democrat Party, or the Republican establishment with their so-called “compassionate conservatism,” all of the answers are big-government, and all are oriented toward socialistic ideas and ideals.

This may come as a shock to a few, but I have long thought that what Levin here admits is true, and that in logic, this system cannot be sustained indefinitely is clear, but the fact that we will likely go through an excruciating collapse is less clear to many people.  The reason is simple, and Levin makes the argument correctly: There are too many people who depend upon this socialist welfare state.  There are too many interests invested in continuing as-is, and virtually none interested in stepping back from it.  The idea behind “austerity” is to try to get back to a sustainable basis, but as you can see from Europe’s results over the last few weeks, austerity simply won’t hold up over the longer run because people are too consumed with short-run comforts, particularly those obtained without effort through the welfare state.

If you believe that same mindset isn’t prevalent here in the US, you’re mistaken.  We are not immune to this thinking, and there is every evidence that we are on the same course, though perhaps a half-step or so behind.  This causes me dread, because what I am coming to believe is that until this country collapses, we will never rebuild it, and I am terrified that those who rebuild it will not be of the same character and temperament as those who established this nation in the first place.   More, I think we may see horrifying conditions erupt along that path, with violence unlike any we have seen or known since the Civil War, and perhaps much worse. In short, collapse seems inevitable, but what that collapse may bring could be even worse, and there is no guarantee that we will emerge as anything even roughly approximating the nation we had known.

or even This?

It is true to say that Obama and his acolytes will have a hand in driving us over the precipice, and indeed, they already have, but let us be circumspect in our evaluation of our situation:  The establishment wing of the GOP has been right there, guiding us in that same direction, albeit somewhat more slowly, but no less indefatigably leftward.  Mitt Romney might be our next President, but if so, what of it?  He, who established Romneycare in Massachusetts will be no more likely to lead us away from socialism than, for instance, Nikolas Sarkozy in France.  In fact, it’s fair to say that Sarkozy is probably a fair analog to the sort of “conservative” leadership Mitt Romney offers, which is to say: It’s not conservative, and it will not change our general direction, or the long-range result.  It will serve as merely one more delay or postponement.

It’s not my intention to cause you undue worry, but it is important that we remain somewhat clear-headed in our view of what it is we’re out to accomplish.  We may see a complete collapse of our country, and it may get as ugly as ugly gets, but I also believe, like Levin admits here, that it is probably inevitable.  What it means to the greater body of the American people is that if you ever wish to return to a free society, you had better start agitating and educating on behalf of such a society now.  Historically, few of the societal makeovers through which nations proceed are bloodless, never mind painless.  More importantly, however, only one came out as well as our adopted Constitution, but what it has demonstrated is that statism, given any loophole, either in the law, or in the culture, will multiply, magnify, and overpower all the restraints thought to have been place upon it.

Our founders attempted to give us a Constitution that would withstand such turmoil, but in the main, avoid it.  It was an imperfect document, but it offered the best shot at a nation built on the basis of individual liberty the world has yet known.  It’s  restraints upon the aggregation and growth of power in the Federal government were not strong enough, and while they may have been plain in the language of our founders, still the language was not plain enough to prohibit the power hungry from perverting the meaning, not merely of the text, but of the very words that are used throughout.  The academics have taken “the people” to mean a collective body, rather than “all individual citizens,” and in this way, we are slowly having our liberties stripped away and delivered to collective notions of “rights,” all to the detriment of individuals.

Ladies and gentlemen, Levin may indeed be right about this, whether he intended it or not, and it’s another warning you should take care to heed.   We are in desperate trouble, and much of it arises from the very contradictions that are slowly consuming us.  Many Americans claim to be “constitutional conservatives,” but I wonder what commitment there is to that idea in practice. Are you willing to undo all the statism that this characterization should imply?  I am, but for my part, I recognize that I am of some tiny minority that would be considered “extreme” both in France, and in the United States, in “polite” political circles.  I read the US Constitution plainly,  and I am versed in the context and meaning in which our founders wrote it.  I neither wear the rose-colored spectacles by which one might imagine into existence rights that cannot exist in logic, nor do I wear the dark masks of those who wish to conceal their grasp for more power.

Our nation cannot survive on its current course.  Cannot.  Will not.  Whether the election in November provides us another four years of the aggressive, lurching tyranny that is Obama, or the more careful, plodding nanny-statism of the Sarkozy-like Romney, the direction is the same, with only the speed along our course varied by the result.  The fundamental issue that confronts us in our time is the same as that which confronts the French or the Greeks, and what would be required to see the salvation of our nation is that which people across Europe now seem to refuse: Austerity.   Austerity is merely the willingness to tell oneself “no” in the short-run, at pains on behalf of a better long-run, and to date, I have yet to see any evidence that a majority of voters (never mind legislators)anywhere are inclined to such self-imposed discipline.  Knowing this, the end of the story may indeed rest in the sentence uttered by Mark Levin:

“The system will have to collapse before it can be rebuilt.”

If it’s true of France, and one could suppose that it is, one might ask whether it isn’t also true of the United States.  What will we be, as a nation, and as a people, when we have been reduced to a sort of atavistic tribalism in which volitional production is replaced with legalized looting of one’s neighbors?  What will the context of that culture impose on the sort of law and governance that emerges?  Do we dare to hope it might in any way resemble  the masterpiece of 1792, much less exceed it?  My pessimism on the subject may reflect my own recent experiences, but history’s judgment is no less worrisome.  If we are to become again a free people, we must change our course entirely. We must identify our malady, and cure it.  Instead, what we now seem to do is to pretend it away.  Until we learn to say “no” and to mean it, we are merely bringing a birthday cake ablaze in candles and gaiety to a what is instead a terrible funeral, with a dirge as our melody.  For those who have mistakenly thought “it could never happen here,” however one might define “it,” the simple truth may be that we’re already well on our way.

It may well be inevitable.

 

 

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  • Guest

    I DO WISH EACH AND EVERY PERSON HAD ACCESS TO THIS INFORMATION.  I HAVE NO REASON BUT TO BELIEVE EVERY WORD IN IT.  I HAVE FELT THAT WAY EVER SINCE THE MAN IN THE WH TOOK OVER OUR COUNTRY.  SOME PEOPLE JUST DO NOT BELIEVE THE MAN IN THE WH MEANS TO TAKE OUR COUNTRY AWAY FROM THE AMERICAN CITIZENS, TAKE ALL OUR FREEDOMS AND HE WILL TELL US HOW TO LIVE.  YOU WHO ARE ABOUT TO SELL OUR COUNTRY TO THE COMMUNIST IN OUR WH, YOU SHOULD KNOW THE TRUTH AND IF YOU DO, YOU WILL NOT VOTE FOR HIM AGAIN.  WHAT IS IT GOING TO TAKE FOR YOU TO BELIEVE WE ARE BEING OVERTAKEN BY COMMUNISTS?  IT ALL DEPENDS ON HOW MANY OF YOU FIND OUT THE TRUTH ABOUT THIS MAN, BEFORE YOU VOTE.  YOU CAN ALWAYS DEPEND ON FOXNEWS TV TO GIVE YOU MUCH MORE TRUE INFORMATION, BECAUSE ALL OTHER MEDIA ARE OWNED AND OPERATED AND ALSO TOLD THE ONLY THING THEY ARE ALLOWED TO TELL US.  THEY ALSO KNOW THAT ALL OTHER STATIONS, IF THEY TELL YOU ANYTHING TRUE, THEY WILL ONLY GIVE YOU A LITTLE ENOUGH INFORMATION AND  LET YOU GUESS ABOUT THE REST.  AS IN “THE HEALTHCARE LAW”  YOU CONSTANTLY HEARD THE FAKE PRESIDENT TELL YOU, YOU CAN KEEP YOUR INSURANCE AND DOCTOR, JUST THE FIRST LIE AND NOW YOU KNOW BETTER NEXT, IT WILL COST YOU LESS, NOW YOU KNOW THAT IS NOT TRUE.YOU NOW KNOW BETTER, THE COMMITTEE APPOINTED TO TAKE CARE OF YOUR HEALTH WILL BE SOMEONE APPPOINTED BY THE FED. GOV’T MAYBE, NO LICENSED DOCTOR WILL HOLD YOUR LIFE IN HIS/HER HANDS AND THE OLDER YOU GET THE LESS ATTENTION AND MEDICINE WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR YOU AND IF YOU NEED SURGERY, YOU ARE ALLOWED ONLY $5,000 FOR ONE YEAR, THAT IS IF THEY ARE CONVINCED IT IS NECESSARY. WHICH,BY THE WAY, DEPENDS ON YOUR AGE, BECAUSE IF YOU CAN DO NOTHING FOR OUR DICTATOR. IT WILL BE DECIDEDN BY THIS  IN OTHER WORDS, JUST TAKE AN ASPIRIN AND LIVE ON OTC MEDICINES AS LONG AS YOU CAN, THEN DIE.”   ALSO THE GOV’T WILL TELL YOU JUST HOW TO DIE, BY SEEING YOU AT TIMES TO BE DECIDED.  I AM BEGGING YOU TO NOT VOTE FOR OBAMA AGAIN, BECAUSE WHAT I HAVE WRITTEN IS THE GOSPEL TRUTH.  IF YOU HAVE OR PLAN TO HAVE CHILDREN, FOR GOD’S SAKE DO NOT VOTE FOR THIS FAKE.  THERE IS NO WAY OF KNOWING HOW THEY WILL BE TREATED, BUT WATCH THE NEWS FROM THOSE OTHER COUNTRIES AND IT WILL GIVE YOU AN IDEA, THAT’S THE WAY COMMUNISTS DO THINGS.

  • JohnInFlorida

    Mark, I couldn’t click on “LIKE” … as much as I agree with what you’ve written, I certainly don’t/can’t like it.
    The box we’ve allowed ourselves to be put in, where our responses are quickly being limited to none that are any more constructive than “Come and Take It!”, well, it’s criminal that we have allowed it to come to this.

    • http://markamerica.com markamerica

      I hear you John. There isn’t much to like about it.

  • RichardB42

    It’s coming. I feel it too – like a cold, sad, bitter wind.  And I know that what we all do NOW will determine what type of “group” gains control as it crumbles around us. I know that many high level (flag rank) officers have been moved around like so many chess pieces to play confuse-a-cat within the 5-sided palace, but I also know that large numbers of very experienced, patriots remain that KNOW what that oath meant when they took it, and will defend it to their own deaths.  I took that very same oath. And no, I didn’t get very near flag rank, but I did get a commission and spent over 20 years in the US military.  My biggest fear is that our military has been sold out – literally. UNDERMINED and set up to fail by being kept so horribly busy on the other side of the world as WE back here at home are effectively neutered by these Marxist animals and their new “friends”  (or old friends…. I’m not sure which is scarier).  The Military is already being monetarily decimated by the MORONS in Congress through that Tax committee debacle.
      You must know that this administration is working with a VERY nasty bunch of revolutionary low-life turds that had no problems blowing up people and buildings back in the 60s, and has even discussed killing as many as 25 or 30 million civilians (yes, us) if we “could not be reprogrammed.”  To that nice bunch, they’ve add a very well funded former Jr. Nazi-teen-scout who thought (or still thinks) he is a ‘god’ of some sort that has planned (or helped plan) the destruction of the dollar because WE are in HIS godly way as he tries to build his border-less ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT.  I am very afraid that this regime (I can’t call them an “administration” in good conscience) has made deals with foreign (Communist) governments behind our backs that we will discover threatens our very existence (I mean physically – with extreme prejudice and much violence).  And I also mean outright TREASON has been committed – the kind that gets a government type lined up and immediately shot if caught by the angry marching masses – I don’t remember if any one asked Benito Mossolini how it felt before they strung him up and cut some of his body parts off – not too good, is my guess.  People do NOT take kindly to traitors – EVER.  
    Up till now we have been lucky to have people in power in the Whitehouse that were “ON OUR SIDE” even as they tried to turn us into their picture of a socialist WELFARE state (basically professional vote buyers – and speaking of buying votes: How about those 10 million 70 minute/month cell phones costing us tax payers 1.5 BILLION/year… yes, classic  Cloward and Piven in action – you KNOW very well it is- and collapse our economy it will.).
    But, I honestly believe this is a different animal. Far different than anything we have ever faced INSIDE THE TENT with us, and we must be ready for it – or at least identify it in time to CRY WOLF AT THE TOP OF OUR LUNGS when the REAL wolf shows its ugly head.  I really hope (and lately I pray) that those remaining in power in the upper echelons of our military and intelligence services have a liking and an allegiance to our Constitution the way I do, AND, that they are up to handling what ever wicked mess this way comes…

  • Cbartlett

    Mark – totally agree with your conclusions. I unfortunately missed Mark Levin’s show most of last week so I didn’t hear this. Didn’t know anyone was saying this but it certainly needs to not only be said, but shouted from the rooftops. My husband and I have been collecting food, supplies and guns and ammo to protect our family. Our adult kids and some friends think we are crazy.

    • http://markamerica.com markamerica

      Cbartlett, The “IT can’t happen here” mentality is a real obstacle. I watched a few moments of a show called “doomsday preppers” recently, and to be honest, it seemed like a propaganda piece aimed primarily at painting preppers as loons. Collecting such supplies is a good plan, whatever some network tries to imply about it. Still, the real preparations need to be philosophical. We’re not losing the country due to a shortage of those things, but because of a mindset that is killing us. The people are becoming accustomed slowly to live under absurd laws, because there is now such a stunning growth in bad law that it’s become the norm.

  • http://www.markamerica.com/ Mark America

    I think you’re basically right Richard. I’ve always thought the current President to be a “true believer” in Marxism, and those with whom he surrounds himself(the Czars, but not as much the regular cabinet, (although a few of them too) are serious leftwing radicals, and yes, it’s been some time but I have reported on the statements of Larry Grathwohl who made it plain what the radicals seek to do about conservatives who get in the way.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=755567036 Jan Bradley

    Mark, I totally agree with your statements and political philosophy, and yes, I would be called “extreme” and “radical” in some circles. 

    I honestly don’t think we will have an election in November.  Obama is not going to take the chance that he might be voted out of office, so I believe this summer he will ramp up his army (Occupiers, unions and Black Panthers) and cause such violence and civil unrest that he can declare martial law and call off the election.  He has already gathered so much power to himself by executive fiat that I can no longer call him “President” Obama, but must go with “Dictator” Obama.

    But my question is, what exactly can we (the tiny minority that sees clearly) do to change the course our nation is on?  None of us are in a position of power that we can affect any kind of change.  Yes, we plan to vote against Obama in November, but if the scenario that I foresee occurs, there will be no election and no chance to vote him out.  My husband and I have guns and he is set up to reload bullets and we are collecting food and grow a garden.  But that’s about all we can do at this point.  We plan to move into the mountains of North Georgia when we retire but that’s 3 years away and a lot can happen in 3 years.

    So do you know of anything that we can do to drag our nation back from the brink?  I think we are about to be judged by God because of our acceptance of homosexuality in our society and our shakiness in regards to Israel.  Dictator Obama has welcomed Islam into positions of power in our nation and Islam lusts for the destruction of Israel in the most vehement way.  We are ripe for judgement and I believe it will come as surely as the sun rises in the east and sets in the west.  If and when our nation turns completely against Israel, the hammer will fall.  So, short of taking care of our own families, I don’t see any other course we can take.  Do you have suggestions?

    • http://markamerica.com markamerica

      My best suggestion is that people prepare to drop off the grid, and it seems as though you’re making such preparations. When I say “drop off the grid,” what I mean specifically is the willingness to pull out, quit work, and thereby stop paying for the system. It’s one of the things Ayn Rand got absolutely correct: We are being bent into the service of our own demise. We are the people who have been convinced to wield the lash against our own backsides. Debt extends our service to the system, because to pay those debts, we must acquire taxable income, and a large portion of that income goes immediately into the subversion of our constitution, but also the moral bedrock on which it rests.

    • the unit

      Well, you sound like the fat lady has sung.  This old guy says take it one day at a time  and enjoy this day the Lord has given you and me.  Tomorrow is not promised. I did all the provisions and ammunition for Y2K, even putting up a few hundred gallons of gas, how long could that last in such dire circumstances? Now with 47 percent not contributing to keeping this country going, and most of the rest relying on a three day supply at the supermarket…how long you, your supplies, your garden, even living on ole Rocky Top going to last?  Best chance is stopping summer of unrest, support law enforcement to do that, and vote against what’s there now.  Live to fight another day, don’t shoot til we see the whites or blood shot ones of their eyes.  And Cbartlett previous…, ignore those you describe. Most folks watch America’s got Talent.  I’ll be surprised if the sun don’t rise…if it don’t….I won’t see it !!!

  • Jeff1000

    It’s interesting that Obama wants a collapse to rebuild America into his vision of a utopian society, and constitutional patriots, according to Levin, need a collapse in order to restore America back to a constitutional republic. So a collapse is inevitable and necessary either way? And what happens after the collapse? What will determine which way the country is rebuilt?

    My thinking has always been that the left needs a collapse to put in place its utopian socialism, and constitutional Americans need to purge the ranks of communists and rollback policies like Obamacare, Dodd-Frank, unelected czars, the EPA and so forth.

    This is the first time I haven’t agreed with Mark Levin, which leads me to suspect that maybe I don’t understand the situation.

  • TENCOLE

    Break them down and build them back up again…..the way they want them. It’s what the military does, it’s what coaches do and it’s the same theory employers do with new employees.
    Break their will, get rid of the malcontent and they all fall in line. 

    Pretty doom and gloom there Mark. *sigh*

  • the unit

    Not inevitable…went to post office…heard car boom boxes spouting vulgar rap lyrics…end to no end…why?… get home and listen to Lord raise me up, thank God. We shall over come has new meaning.

  • the unit

    Most of what we see and hear is diversion and oblivion of ones’s conscious mind.  Try to really inform and what do you get?  Be long gone from the scene.  I been seeing lots of info on internet since Windows 95, but missed this. Maybe you did as well.

    • http://markamerica.com markamerica

      Oh, I’m sure I miss plenty, particularly lately.